In a nutshell: Selank, for me, is more anxiolitic and normalizing while Semax is... more fluid and has a sneaky side to it that comes out at times to shine instead of me panicking.
Tyler
N-Acetyl Selank vs N-Acetyl-Semax. TL;DR: I cannot say that I have been able to review these compounds directly for a couple of reasons, but NA Selank 300mcg, from Limitless Life Nootropics, for me, is incredibly nootropic, anxiolitic, and adaptogenic.
I bought NA Selank with 300mcg sprays from Limitless Life Nootropics with overnight delivery. I received the bottle yet the ice pack was long melted (stating the obvious). The first spray pump I received was faulty and would not spray correctly every time. When I ordered with overnight delivery, the Selank solution was pre-mixed and arrived ready-to-use. After communication with the vendor, they sent me another pump with a little extra Selank for the hassle. It arrived as the un-mixed version of peptide and solution separate. This un-mixed version is a characterization of Limitless Life Nootropics. As of this writing they are the only vendor I'm aware of that sells it like this. The reasoning behind it is to preserve the peptide, similar to why the ice pack is used: to prevent temperature spikes as best as possible. Interesting concept, more on this later with Semax.
I mixed up the solution and the spray bottle worked very well this time. I am sure that I can feel Selank within 5-10 minutes. My usual dose was through the day 1 or 2x 300mcg sprays in the morning, 1x 300mcg spray mid-day, and 1x 300mcg later, if necessary. I found it odd spraying it at work, but I found times and space to do it discretely.
NA Selank, for me, works very well. I just feel, "normal." Let me explain. Thoughts for me seem to go through a process internally, to feelings, to then expressions. Sometimes the processor (me) gets in the way and filters them so they don't become expressions. It seems to be an anxiety, a nervousness, whatever, and I miss out on living or expressing and then things pass and I'm like ":/" so when I was using Selank, I was smiling, I was very natural, relaxed, aware... the awareness and clarity over everything was incredible. Selank seemed to prevent "mood tangles" where I get roused, or whatever mood such as happy, and I could just simply see that clearly as a feeling and not be tangled up in it with mental energy. It was like an anchor for the real me, and these things I experienced would just simply pass. This made my stress drop dramatically, I was able to handle making decisions much more accurately to the benefit of the long-term, I was promoted while using Selank, I had sleep deprivation during training for 2 weeks of a flip-flopped schedule at work, handled it, even worked 14 hours of overtime one of those weeks. Because I could, easily.
So then I buy N-Acetyl Semax 100mcg. I was hesitant because people talk about Semax as "stimulating." Relative to Selank I wanted to have more of a relaxing experience, as I have muscle tension that I believe was founded by injury and now-created by my neuro-psychology and muscle patterns. Anyways, I bought it this time with standard shipping from Limitless Life Nootropics. It arrived 2 days later quick as hell, from Alabama to Oregon, as the non-mixed version as expected. My first thoughts when looking at the container of peptide, "that's 10mg?" and to me it looked like the peptide was almost clear or something, even "melted" to my ignorant eyes. My first thoughts when handling the spray bottle with solution in it was "there's a little leak and the paper label is wet and my hands have ink on them." I rubbed off the entire label and I mixed it up and sprayed 2x 100mcg one in each nostril and went off to work.
I don't get too much from Semax that I can pin down. It seems to take 20-30 minutes to feel effects, and I do sometimes feel more clear, sometimes wanting to open up for conversation and my verbal fluency is there, but I guess I was expecting something else. Not too sure. I still have half a bottle left and use it every day right now as I'm still looking at it. I kind of even feel delirious or something with Semax. It reminds me of the feeling of being drunk and wobbly, or even the feeling I get with phenibut+caffeine where's it's like, "Damn, Tyler, you're on that level" which I don't necessarily enjoy on the day-to-day. I don't take much, 2 or 3x 100mcg sprays in a day, and experimented with a bit more without much notice of difference. There has been a sense of well-being, but it isn't as anchored as Selank. I could see using this once in a while for something like a speech, or other such things, but every day use, Selank was for me. However, I know I can't compare apples to apples with this one due to dosage and also the shipping method: overnight/pre-mixed vs standard/un-mixed.
Josh
They are quite different from,eachother though. Selank is good for anxiety and mood and Semax is good for cognition and depression. I like that last cat wagging its tail lol Selank is good for anxiety and mood and Semax is good for,cognition, learning and,depression mainly because of a rapid increase in BDNF levels (500%)
Suzanne
Selank is an anxiolytic. Semax is mildly stimulating without increasing your Cortisol levels. Both increase BDNF so I rarely stack them together.
Suzanne
I like Selank by itself, that's generally the only Nootropic I take during the weekend.
Semax works well with stacks. I take it mostly for work, it really helps motivation.
If they weren't so expensive I would probably use more often. Also, I've tried Selank Sub-Q and it's effects were much more noticeable than intranasal.
Chritopher
Semax is absolutely great for me. In my eyes its tge best nootropic and the most "limitless" drug out there
Seth
Selank is good if you struggle with anxiety or stress. For me, without adequate stimulation it could make me complacent or apathetic.
Dare
Finishing up my semax and selank experiment. It takes at least 2mg of each to have a useful effect. So, pretty expensive if that's the case. I really like them but im very poor. I can see why people go for afinils, they are cheap and allow you to become an ambition focused sociopath so you can make more money.
Ross
Semax is older and more established and more of a stim, selank is more of an anxiety relief. I have not tried the new versions yet as I wanna make sure no one grows an extra arm. 1mg of semax and 0.5mg of selank is a good dose IMO of original version. Not sure beyond that. I would get the peptide and reconstitute it as the peptide is fragile, but if you get the premixed get the temp control.
Dan
I find selank relaxing and semax very focusing. If that helps. I usually dose 1_2 squirts per nostril, sometimes twice a day. The semax works great, the selank effect is mild for me. Yes go with the temp controlled packaging. I felt the semax within minutes, the selank wasn't as pronounced though. I am pretty chill already though. And with the semax, hell, it could have been psychological. I will reorder the semax but probably not the selank (i use kratom now as my go to anxiolytic ).
Ross
Day one of 1mg of semax I felt a layer of brain fog I did not know I had clear... after a few weeks of daily doses I noticed a drop in performance. further use has shown for me a 1 week cycle every 8-12 weeks is sufficient. I usually do a week right before a semester but am not going to this time to see how I do. lol
Hugo
Temperature controlled shipping is included by default. You should take fast shipping since after 5 days, your SEMAX will be warm, which can denaturize the peptide. 1-2 spray is a good starting dose, you can make that up to 2 sprays per nostrils once you get the feeling for it. Selank is mainly an anxiolytic ( reduces anxiety ) while Semax is more of a stimulant, yet it can also help with anxiety. Taking semax before going to bed is not a good idea, as it can make you feel energized. I don't think that would be a problem with Selank. Hope this helped !
Nikos
N acetyl semax is 2x as strong as regular semax. I would get the 300mcg Nasal spray with temperature controlled packaging and begin with 2 sprays per day for the first week, and then drop it to 1 spray after that. I take it subQ and began with 1mg per day for 1 week, and now I do 0.5mg per day.
Giuseppe
Both good products. Semax is like an extremely stressful situation without anxiety. Its pretty nice but since it's an analogue of a naturally occurring stress hormone, it should be used sparingly at best . Salenk is quite nice. Don't get the acetylated versions.
Dom
Semax works amazingly well, while more expensive, it far more cognitively enhancing, I prefer it to methylphenidate as a treatment for my ADHD. Selank is good, but not as stimulating as semax and cancels out some of the increased motivation when taken together, but it's a great anxiolytic and I find it much better for social interaction. Also you will require far less sleep than normal, I can get by with 4 hours on semax, whereas I usually need 9
Edward
Personally I am uncertain about Semax. When I took the shitty nasal dropper I got headaches but felt a different feeling than when I inject subcutaneously which seems more subtle even though I have megadosed before. Sometimes I think it has a negative impact on my mood, but cant be certain. I am confident in its neurogenerative/protective qualities though so seems to be beneficial even if Im not feeling it as much as I wanted to. Having said that there are times when I was in a particular state of mind, usually an anxious one, and both Semax and Selank (individually not taken together or I'd not know which is causing it) seemed to be incredibly powerful. For example. One time injected Selank after a long trip and had a lot of anxiety when I returned home, it felt like I'd been given a shot of some pain drug in hospital or something, better than a benzo with no sedation. I dont understand what happened there and I've run out of Selank now and havent had that experience again quite so extreme but I have had a few similar. It could be that they seem to have subtle effects until you "need" it and then they really show their qualities, which is something I was told by Ceretropics owner on reddit.
I bought NA Selank with 300mcg sprays from Limitless Life Nootropics with overnight delivery. I received the bottle yet the ice pack was long melted (stating the obvious). The first spray pump I received was faulty and would not spray correctly every time. When I ordered with overnight delivery, the Selank solution was pre-mixed and arrived ready-to-use. After communication with the vendor, they sent me another pump with a little extra Selank for the hassle. It arrived as the un-mixed version of peptide and solution separate. This un-mixed version is a characterization of Limitless Life Nootropics. As of this writing they are the only vendor I'm aware of that sells it like this. The reasoning behind it is to preserve the peptide, similar to why the ice pack is used: to prevent temperature spikes as best as possible. Interesting concept, more on this later with Semax.
I mixed up the solution and the spray bottle worked very well this time. I am sure that I can feel Selank within 5-10 minutes. My usual dose was through the day 1 or 2x 300mcg sprays in the morning, 1x 300mcg spray mid-day, and 1x 300mcg later, if necessary. I found it odd spraying it at work, but I found times and space to do it discretely.
NA Selank, for me, works very well. I just feel, "normal." Let me explain. Thoughts for me seem to go through a process internally, to feelings, to then expressions. Sometimes the processor (me) gets in the way and filters them so they don't become expressions. It seems to be an anxiety, a nervousness, whatever, and I miss out on living or expressing and then things pass and I'm like ":/" so when I was using Selank, I was smiling, I was very natural, relaxed, aware... the awareness and clarity over everything was incredible. Selank seemed to prevent "mood tangles" where I get roused, or whatever mood such as happy, and I could just simply see that clearly as a feeling and not be tangled up in it with mental energy. It was like an anchor for the real me, and these things I experienced would just simply pass. This made my stress drop dramatically, I was able to handle making decisions much more accurately to the benefit of the long-term, I was promoted while using Selank, I had sleep deprivation during training for 2 weeks of a flip-flopped schedule at work, handled it, even worked 14 hours of overtime one of those weeks. Because I could, easily.
So then I buy N-Acetyl Semax 100mcg. I was hesitant because people talk about Semax as "stimulating." Relative to Selank I wanted to have more of a relaxing experience, as I have muscle tension that I believe was founded by injury and now-created by my neuro-psychology and muscle patterns. Anyways, I bought it this time with standard shipping from Limitless Life Nootropics. It arrived 2 days later quick as hell, from Alabama to Oregon, as the non-mixed version as expected. My first thoughts when looking at the container of peptide, "that's 10mg?" and to me it looked like the peptide was almost clear or something, even "melted" to my ignorant eyes. My first thoughts when handling the spray bottle with solution in it was "there's a little leak and the paper label is wet and my hands have ink on them." I rubbed off the entire label and I mixed it up and sprayed 2x 100mcg one in each nostril and went off to work.
I don't get too much from Semax that I can pin down. It seems to take 20-30 minutes to feel effects, and I do sometimes feel more clear, sometimes wanting to open up for conversation and my verbal fluency is there, but I guess I was expecting something else. Not too sure. I still have half a bottle left and use it every day right now as I'm still looking at it. I kind of even feel delirious or something with Semax. It reminds me of the feeling of being drunk and wobbly, or even the feeling I get with phenibut+caffeine where's it's like, "Damn, Tyler, you're on that level" which I don't necessarily enjoy on the day-to-day. I don't take much, 2 or 3x 100mcg sprays in a day, and experimented with a bit more without much notice of difference. There has been a sense of well-being, but it isn't as anchored as Selank. I could see using this once in a while for something like a speech, or other such things, but every day use, Selank was for me. However, I know I can't compare apples to apples with this one due to dosage and also the shipping method: overnight/pre-mixed vs standard/un-mixed.
Semax works well with stacks. I take it mostly for work, it really helps motivation.
If they weren't so expensive I would probably use more often. Also, I've tried Selank Sub-Q and it's effects were much more noticeable than intranasal.